Which tools do 2015-2017 Vauxhall Vivaro/ Traffic all keys lost, Lonsdor, Autel IM508/IM608, Smart Pro or AVDI?
Lonsdor all keys lost not working.
Lonsdor don’t do all keys lost on Vivaro/Trafic 3 (same as Renault Trafic) with key.
Autel, AVDI and SmartPro will do via OBD.
Be careful on Autel on all keys lost as a few have been killed, internal dongle error, vehicle cranks a few times then nothing, remote works, avdi can repair the internal dongle error. AVDI for those as it has a repair function if UCH gets corrupted.
For example: Renault Trafic 2016 went for body work in the garage and key was lost / AKL , made a key with Autel IM608 and Van is cranking but not starting – remote is working.
DTC in UCH / dtc9568 – dongle system internal failure.
When bricked the common scenario is the remote works, but engine has a crank that doesnt sound right , cranks so many times then stops , after a short time it will crank and stop again , normally in bcm you will see dongle error fault.
Other things will also brick it even with the tools that are safest to use on them most commonly when no battery support maintaining over 13v has been used for the key programming procedure , and when the vehicle has a donor unit such as airbag module or abs module fitted , during key programming procedure the uch sees the missmatched unit and bricks vehicle, it is essential all vins match in all all units for key programming to be safe.. so as airbag unit is not seen this may lead to such a scenario.
Best machine on these all keys lost is Smart pro for speed and safety as makes no change , next best is avdi, a lot of machines do spares but not all keys lost.
Use battery support to maintain over 13v throughout, people normally maintain 13.8v throughout.
Make sure you scan all units prior to coding a key to ensure vin number matches up in all units, its common to see a doner ABS or airbag unit on these with a different vin number in them, if it has a 2nd hand unit all works fine, but as soon as you do key programming van shuts down with errors due to mismatched units and its trip to dealer or tool like avdi to fix it.
Smart pro does all keys lost without issue on Traffic and Vivaro models , and in around 3 minutes, its never failed us on models to end of 2017.
smart pro did fail on a 68 plate ( late 2018 model ) to do a spare key , a warning appeared stating unknown software version and if you proceed you do so at your own risk as damage is possible, you can switch to avdi. I suspect there’s a software change on some 2019 models that SP hasn’t cracked as yet , so it warns you of this and leaves it up to you if you back out or not.
A lot choose not to use Autel on Traffic and Vivaro akl for 2015 onwards models, too many have gone wrong, some user error due to doner units and lack of battery support, but not all, as we have better more reliable tools in avdi and smart pro for these models, but autel is tool of choice on some makes and model, all programmers have their strengths and weaknesses , their bugs and their fails , each tool does something better than the next tool.
smart pro is safest as it makes no changes to any modules in the vehicle so theres not alot can go wrong on these , if theres a potential issue it warns you so you can back out , it also guides you to apply battery support and to do a battery reset if opened by remote prior to key programming , so guides you step by step , avdi too as avdi can fix any problems that occur most others cant including smart pro , so its the safest tool because it doesnt make changes to any unit so less to go wrong , and if a software version they havnt cracked yet it warns you so you can back out with no damage , thus the safest tool for those without the kit and knowledge to fix the internal dongle error etc.
though now avdi can fix the internal dongle error, it is also safe but not as quick as smart pro.
avdi can also rewrite the correct vin and data to used abs and airbag units if a doner unit is fitted with different vin.
so if your autel im608 pro or lonsdor kills it, then as long as you have or know someone who has avdi and the relevent licence then they can fix this for you with avdi even when another machine has created the issue , which makes it a very useful tool.
but all tools rely on adequate battery support maintaining at least 13v and matching vins in all modules, thus the need to add battery support and scan and check vin in all units before key programming , i use abrites vin reader , takes a minute or 2 to scan all units and verify vin in each also checks stolen vehicle databases, and you dont need to have an avdi to use abrites vin reader , its a dongle that works on its own linked to your mobile phone.
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